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Joe Marks
17:42 13 Jan 23
Austin and Steven were amazing! They showed up on time, were thorough in their analysis of the problem, and quick to make the necessary repair. I appreciate their professionalism and that they didn’t try to “upsell” me on unnecessary extras. As a result, I now have heat again AND a maintenance agreement. I will be using Ward for all of my HVAC needs going forward!
Mark Brannon
23:01 12 Jan 23
Good crew of folks that worked and helped us understand the system.
mary parisi
22:15 11 Jan 23
Wonderful
Sarah Church
21:05 11 Jan 23
Michael was very prompt, knowledgeable and personable. Did an awesome job with our HVAC and heating system and had all the answers we needed.
Jacob Scott
17:37 11 Jan 23
Adam was efficient and polite, and extremely knowledgeable about my system. I was impressed with his professionalism and commitment to making sure my system was fully repaired, running numerous tests before he left. Fantastic experience.
Gwen Hafford
07:32 11 Jan 23
Nick and his assistant, Drew, were right on time. They took pictures as they examined the plumbing to determine the source of the water leak. They were both very professional, knowledgeable and personable. Nick was able to explain the source of the leak to me in layman’s terms. . I will use this company for all service needs from now on.
Jeff McCardle
03:42 11 Jan 23
Tech was professional & knowledgeable
Benjamin Eason
21:43 10 Jan 23
Joel was awesome. Highly recommend!
Chris Wilcox
19:42 10 Jan 23
Rebecca Murphy
17:34 10 Jan 23
Tom and Charley were excellent. Very knowledgeable , clear, engaging and professional. Highly recommend!!!Go local!
Kent Cranford
03:12 10 Jan 23
The Ward crew has been great to work with on my home and business. Highly recommended!
Dakota Cowan
16:10 09 Jan 23
jeff guelcher
20:12 07 Jan 23
Having issues with the fan on my heat pump not working. Jeff from Ward called the day of appointment and offered to come early. I was at work, but my wife was home with the dogs. Jeff spent some time diagnosing the issues and provided me with options and estimates. The first option was a new thermostat, which I have installed after returning from our trip. Testing now, and if that wasn’t the problem I’ll be calling Jeff to return. Appreciate his help and professionalism.
Chris Warren
20:29 06 Jan 23
Jeff N. took the time to explain/show me everything he was doing and clearly explained services. Fantastic technician!
Karen Gagliano
17:34 06 Jan 23
Great service. I was always aware of what was happening. The men explained to me the problems and what needed to be fixed. They did a great job finding why i had no flow through my pipes from the outside. Such nice guys to work with. Friendly and patient. There are a few more things to be done. Need some parts.
Rick Curtis
22:02 05 Jan 23
Very professional and quality of work was fantastic
T & S Smith
21:50 05 Jan 23
Robert Beal
15:51 05 Jan 23
Always prompt, professional and polite. Always happy with results of service
David James
23:03 03 Jan 23
Jeff was great. Professional, kind and on time
Keith Haskett
22:12 03 Jan 23
Timely, professional, knowlegable.
Andrea Zopp
20:11 03 Jan 23
Allen the technician was wonderful. Very professional and explained what he was doing. Highly recommend Ward Plumbing Heating and Air.
Richard Terry
19:22 03 Jan 23
Very professional and knowledgeable!
Perrin & Laurel Radley
17:54 03 Jan 23
Terry was excellent. He saved us from having to replace our shower, getting the part he needed from a nearby store, and explained everything well. He even told us how to clean our shower head using vinegar. We will use Ward in future and hope Terry returns!
Felecia Jones
17:07 03 Jan 23
Fast and efficient
Justin Alexander
05:53 01 Jan 23
Jennifer Chatham
21:48 31 Dec 22
We had pipes bust over a frozen weekend. Great service, very friendly. Will did an amazing job.
Tom Davis
19:23 30 Dec 22
Good service! Will use them again.
Madison Alexander
14:28 30 Dec 22
Pamela Wood
19:55 28 Dec 22
Worked on my unit. Needs to order heat elements and come back. Was very friendly and easy to talk to.
Judie Slisz
14:53 28 Dec 22
Impressed with experience. Friendly and courteous technicians
Sue Ellen Bridgers
21:54 27 Dec 22
Great job by Drew and Nicholas. I was without water and now I have cold and hot! Feels like a miracle but I know it was these guys know how to solve the problem and doing it. Thanks!
Betty Elliott
21:30 27 Dec 22
Eric and Thomas were very professional and thorough. They were able to solve an issue we had for one year — why our water smelled like rotten eggs. They made the necessary changes and flushed the whole pipe system. We will continue using the services from Wards.
Mike Agate
20:25 27 Dec 22
Caleb Brower
19:50 27 Dec 22
Jeremy Brown
19:17 27 Dec 22
Allen was very professional and was able to diagnose the problem and get us back up and running.
Ender Girl
21:03 23 Dec 22
Randy Ruffner
18:00 23 Dec 22
I needed a pipe to be repaired after freezing. The service man, Will, was here in less than two hours, and made the repair in freezing weather. Extremely helpful and very professional I highly recommend them.
Ryan Herrmann
15:48 23 Dec 22
jerry sheffer
21:46 22 Dec 22
Excellent- the best.
Ethan King
17:34 22 Dec 22
Joel and Timothy were great! They were very efficient and fixed our problem quickly and with great quality.
Marlowe Mager
17:17 22 Dec 22
Roxanne O'Connor
22:56 21 Dec 22
Matt was very professional, described what he did and he was timely. Nice to have good work and a professional.
Joseph Innocenzi
17:13 21 Dec 22
Brian and Terry were awesome. Professional and informative. Helped me save some money as opposed to the alternative. Highly recommended.
Kelly Hall
15:39 21 Dec 22
I had an emergency and they came within an hour to see if they could fix my problem. Very pleased with their response time and Austin’s professionalism. Unfortunately, not an quick fix though. I had to wait for a part to be delivered.Austin followed up on time and got my furnace to running again! Highly recommend him!
Hanson Slaughter
14:49 21 Dec 22
Ward Plumbing, Heating and Air had installed new HVAC, plumbing, and a tankless water heater for me. Terry is very professional and does excellent work.
Ron Heatherly
23:07 20 Dec 22
Replaced our heating & cooling system in one day!Job well done 👏
Greg Slusher
22:20 20 Dec 22
Jason O'brien
20:08 20 Dec 22
Patty Ambrosino
18:04 20 Dec 22
Again, so happy with Ward PH&A. Will E. and other tech, sorry I didn't get his name, did a wonderful job repairing a leaky faucet, and replacing an eyesore of a corroded bathroom sink drain collar. So thrilled to have reputable and competent folks to call on!
Ginny Carney
19:31 01 Nov 22
Allen Cochran recently did a very thorough job of inspecting our HVAC system and informing us of any potential problems. He was professional, courteous, and willing to answer any questions that I had, and immediately e-mailed a complete summary of his work. He is definitely a 5-Star employee!
Josh Young
22:04 28 Sep 22
David and Stephen arrived a full half hour early, were perfectly professional, friendly and helpful; they had a challenging replacement and install in my attic but pulled it off admirably. They were done in roughly four hours and I'm completely satisfied with their performance; well done!
Natalie Newman
22:26 12 Sep 22
Diego and Cole were our amazing ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ technicians. They finished us up today and were so kind, helpful, informative and communicative. You see, our air went out and when Brad W. from Ward found out we were sitting around in the HOT HEAT OF SUMMER he contacted me directly, he personally got something set up and Jason came out to look at our options. We ended up needing a new system since our old one was a few decades old, inefficient, and broken. The service from beginning to end was fast and I am so thankful for them as we have two little ones and a dog in the home, they made sure to let us know what was going on and got someone out quickly. They even coordinated with the electrician to help get us converted over to our new system. I am so happy with the service, this is the first time I've used Ward for my personal home, we use them at my job for the properties we manage and they have always been great there so I knew I was in great hands. Very organized and professional. I would definitely use them again.
Gina Eandi
03:27 07 Jun 22
Ward is the ABSOLUTE BEST plumbing, HVAC service firm in WNC. Ward responds immediately and gets the job done with pristine care in a punctual manner. Ward is the best game in town. Ward is the ONLY game in town. Andrew Gude was the most amazing technician. So polite, courteous and neat and clean. Thank you, Andrew.
Katie Riccardi
20:05 14 Dec 21
Andrew and Aaron were very professional, helpful, and informative. We will be calling Ward plumbing from now on for any of my plumbing needs!
Brian Dickens
18:09 30 Nov 21
After only 10 years of operation, our heat pump finally died a couple of weeks ago. Thanks to Ward's though, we're back up and running! From start to finish, the crew did an amazing job working with us. In just half a day, their two-man crew were able to swap out both the air handler and compressor with upgraded, more efficient equipment. Thanks Dave and Thomas for getting the unit installed so quickly!Going into the winter knowing we have a reliable source of heat will bring great peace of mind. Thanks again!
Phil Myers
23:01 30 Aug 21
Had Levi come out for my A/C problem. He and his assistant were excellent! Extremely professional and efficient. Highly recommend!
Marty Kuhn
16:07 02 Jul 21
Contacted Ward plumbing heating and air. Talked with MelissaScheduled Ray S for hvac arrived on time very personable and knows his jobDavid S for plumbing did a great job took his time and did it right5* for everyoneThanks also to Aaron and of course Melissa
Angela Cooper Allen
21:13 02 Jun 21
Nick recently did some work for us. He was very courteous and professional. He called to let me know when he was coming and also explained all the work he did for us. I look forward to using Ward plumbing in the future.
Keith Williams
14:16 09 May 21
A couple of plumbers came out and did not finish their job they were supposed to do. They even broke a couple of parts and left the job without repairing leaks. Will came out and saved the day. He fixed the broken parts caused by the previous plumbers. He replaced a kitchen faucet that had been installed without a spray hose, with an upgrade at no cost. He unplugged a clog in the bathroom sink drain and fixed a crack in the pipe. I would highly recommend Will. He has an outstanding attitude and does superior work. Thank you Will Edwards for getting our plumbing back up working again on a Saturday.
Jeffery Berry
00:22 16 Mar 21
Friendly and professional. Technician was knowledgeable of the oil heat that was in the house when we purchased it. Calibrated and serviced it. Relocated the thermostat! Great job!
Todd Kreps
14:56 18 Feb 21
David Shield was professional and quickly explained the work that needed done. He did a great job fixing our plumbing issue. I will definitely call ward again if the need arises.
Amber McCarter
22:13 16 Jan 21
The review is from Kyeleen, my elderly Grandma. Wow!!! I am Kyeleen. My heat went out in 20-degree temperatures outside. With a 3-year-old and a 10-year-old, I panicked. I called Ward Plumbing and Heating and on the other side was the most pleasant voice I had ever heard. I felt like I was talking to someone who cared about me and the problem I was having. I found that everyone at Ward's was just as pleasant. Everyone Who entered my home was professional, pleasant, and wore their masks. The workmanship, cleaning up the aftermath, and most important their timeliness were amazing. Ward's would always call or text and let you know the date and time and even a picture of the person/people to be in your home along with their names. All the men at wards deserve as many stars as they could possibly have. If you are reading this, please call Ward plumbing and heating when you have a problem. Nothing is too big or small for them.P.S. To my surprise, I received a package from Ward with a thank you note and some delicious cookies, not to mention a wonderful tin box they came in either.Thank you, Kyeleen
Graham George
21:03 29 Dec 20
They were prompt, very courteous, and knowledgeable and made suggestions that will save me money. I would have them back for any other plumbing problems I develop.
Christopher McCoy
16:02 20 Oct 20
Will and Brian were very professional and got the job done quickly. The whole experience with Ward has been great, highly recommend!
Cathy Parrill
19:51 08 Oct 20
Brian did an excellent job! Diagnosed the problem, fixed it, and showed me before and after pictures along with his detailed and clear explanation of the problem
Jenni McClain Gardner
20:09 07 Oct 20
Will and David were, as usual, courtesy and efficient.
Steve Haber
14:40 07 Oct 20
Will and David did a great job! Thanks so much! 5-Star Service! Laundry set up and also Utility Sink. Fantastic! Thanks so much!
Ronnie Hill
23:37 05 Oct 20
Brian Jones was our technician, he was 1st class, A1, professional, and fixed our furnace. What more could you ask for. We got same day service and next time we have a problem, I’ll call Ward again.
Victoria Bennett Wedell
16:10 05 Sep 20
Valve broke on our Bathtub. We were without water for 2 days. Pete came out to fix our water problem. He was so very helpful and addressed our sediment issue. The orig. install of our bathtub faucet was put in backwards. Pete figured everything out in a very short time. Got our water turned back on. He is an amazing plumber...He was so very informative. He is actually the "Magic Man" Thank you so much Pete for all your knowledge. Valve broke on our Bathtub. We were without water for 2 days. Pete came out to fix our water problem. He was so very helpful and addressed our sediment issue. The orig. install of our bathtub faucet was put in backwards. Pete figured everything out in a very short time. Got our water turned back on. He is an amazing plumber...He was so very informative. He is actually the "Magic Man" Thank you so much Pete for all your knowledge.
Jason Christopherson
17:29 31 Aug 20
Ward Plumbing and Heating was great. Came out on a weekend and got us back up and going. Tech Joe was awesome as well. He was very knowledgeable and was a good representative of the company. This company’s rates are a little high but I always say you get what you pay for. They show up on time and keep you informed. As we all know in WNC this is not always the case. Great job guys!
Sara Long
15:57 14 Jul 20
Joe arrived on time, observed all Covid 19 safety protocols. Very professional service.
Carolyn Ray
12:17 01 Jul 20
On May 16 we had 2 of the nicest guys fix our shower drain, and did a great job. Also they were great representatives of Ward Heating and Plumbing. They explained everything they did from start to finish! They had to get under our hot crawl space!, never complaining! Great experience and would call the same company again! Give them 10 Stars!
Paul Sale
22:48 25 Jun 20
Just finished a project replacing my 20 year old heat pump with Ward P&H. Their service is exemplary. I don't know how to rate the pricing because I didn't get competing bids. I just wanted good service and good product, which is exactly what I got. The new Bosch equipment looks good, sounds good, cools good. I like the quietness of this two-stage machine. Big difference from the old Trane. The installation crew was efficient and obviously very knowledgeable. The primary installer, Steven Franks, was top notch. I would recommend him to anyone. His helpers were just as good. Nothing but 5 stars here.
William Earl Moore Jr
23:34 16 Jun 20
Adam Black was the tech that install my air conditioner unit. He was a five star tech. He was very polite and knowledgeable. I would recommend Ward Plumbing and Adam for any of your Air Conditioning needs.
JB Mathews
13:24 15 Jun 20
Patrick explained everything he was doing and what he was looking for. Knowledgeable and helpful the whole time. Thanks!
John Boaze
12:30 28 May 20
On time, went right to work fixing the problem. Checked the unit to make sure it was working.
Debbie Weddle Galbreath
23:15 15 May 20
Great communication Will arrived when expected and quickly completed my repair. Thanks for the quick and friendly service.
Deb Brubaker Crews
15:58 11 May 20
Will was polite and knew what he was doing. I recommend him to anyone needing plumbing. Service was fast and I'll be telling everyone about Ward's. Thank you for the great job
John Davis
19:43 17 Mar 20
Ward plumbing ( Dave ) came to the house in no time . Got it all finalized , good job, Dave and his co -partner got the job done . Thanks again ward plumbing.
Margaret Arline
17:56 06 Mar 20
I contacted Ward P&H with a variety of plumbing issues and Will was out to my place the very next day. He was professional, very thorough and explained everything to me so that I have a good understanding of the workings of my system and the potential issues. He gave me a few estimates and fixed my troublesome toilet tank on the spot. Thank you so much for the excellent service; I will be sure to call you again when I'm ready for further plumbing work!
Lee Kram
17:42 05 Mar 20
Patrick did a great job.
Dealana Staples
15:49 21 Feb 20
I had a problem with my tub and called them they had a plumber at my house first thing the next day. Will went above and beyond i will definitely call them for all my plumbing needs.
Melinda Toppino
01:51 12 Feb 20
We had an issue with our water heater recently and we called Ward. We scheduled an appointment right away with Pete. He was on time, diagnosed our problem and gave us a few options. We ended up getting a new water heater and Pete and Will installed it the next day. Their service is prompt, professional and polite. We couldn't be happier and will definitely call them for future heating and plumbing needs. 5 stars for these guys for sure!
Terry Hunter
20:50 01 Feb 20
Prompt Service w/kindness and clarity of the job. Excellent Service and experienced Plumbers! Thank you Pete!!! Peace, Redbird aka Terry Hunter
Garnett Hutchinson
18:49 20 Jan 20
Dave Geiger came on a holiday with Jerry to connect my heat pump emergency system which had not been connected because they were waiting for an electrical panel upgrade. The upgrade was last week but I didn't know I had to call Ward PH to do the hook up. These men were exceptional - they came to my son's house to find me (2 doors down) then quickly connected the unit, then programed the thermostat with a bonus of telling me about NEXIA remote internet connection to my system - AND they helped me set that up on my phone. It couldn't have been a better experience! Thank you so much!
Shelby S Hicks
22:16 17 Jan 20
Will Edwards came out to do a diagnostic on my bathroom sink, on-time, service was efficient, he cleaned up, was polite and courteous. I will definitely be using Ward for future projects and recommend to anyone👍.
Sheila Rodgers
17:08 16 Jan 20
We highly recommend Patrick at Ward P&H! He came yesterday to assess our two heat pumps. He was very knowledgeable and precise. He was friendly and on time, worked diligently and discovered the problem. We will definitely call for Patrick again.
Judy Ferguson
20:44 06 Jan 20
Responded quickly after contact. Understood the problem and fixed! Thank you!
Bernie Gilchrist
22:24 02 Jan 20
Came home from the holidays and found the house not being heated. Called Ward Plumbing and Heating on Sunday, worth the extra service fee to know they could get the work done this week with the holidays. Patrick was great, both diagnosing the issue and gave a completediagnostic of system. Educated me on regular maintenance plan and the cost. Issue was the blower fan, ordered a Trane blower and had it here in two days. Call Ward's Plumbing and Heating for great work and service!
Ron Rookstool
22:27 13 Nov 19
Prompt, courteous, knowledgeable and professional. Joe Carey is an asset to Wards. Thanks I am one happy customer.
Helen Vance
12:22 16 Oct 19
Peter Jeremiah has once again provided top notch service in a friendly and professional manner. Highly recommended.
Krissie Sutton Red
20:36 27 Sep 19
Exceptional service from beginning to end. Fair pricing and quick service! Communication was topnotch! Steven was very professional and diagnosed and resolved my problem quickly!
Jean Hooper Scott
20:59 21 Aug 19
Our plumbing issues were resolved quickly and professionally by Will. Everything working great!
Jill Pruitt Denlea
12:10 06 Aug 19
Great customer service and quality work. They communicated well with us prior to and after our service need.
Ray Wood
16:34 31 Jul 19
Pete was great! Very patient and detailed oriented. Did an outstanding job! I would recommend Ward Plumbing to all my friends. I would give company and Pete 10 stars out of 10.
Linda Ross Leo
15:35 05 Jul 19
Just received outstanding service from Pete. Found a hard to find leak. Thank you!
Bill Armgard
19:47 13 Jun 19
Prompt, professional, great communication regarding appointment.
Robert Schader
15:59 05 Jun 19
I just had my AC routinely serviced. Our tech, Patrick, was pleasant, knowledgeable, and efficient. In addition I had 2 plumbing problems fixed at the same time by another tech, David, who was likewise excellent. Bi highly recommend Ward Plumbing.
Denise O'Connor
19:50 28 May 19
Yes David actually showed up early and did an awesome job on my restoring the use of my bathrooms. 5 stars for him
Amanda Clayton
19:27 14 May 19
I live in Buncombe County and heard good things about Ward’s. I gave them a call on a Thursday and they offered to fix it the next day! The lowest price and the best service! I highly recommend this company!
Donna Harris Bommer
21:37 02 May 19
April 30 was the first really warm day at our house, and our heat pump was not putting out any cool air. Tom called Wards, and took advantage of a new deal they have. For not much more than the regular "housecall" for our current problem, Tom agreed to a "WeatherGuard" program to have them come twice this year to check out our unit for changing seasons. So the next day, Joe Cary came and within about an hour had cleaned our condenser, replaced a bad fan--and put in a new filter that came with this new program. He was quick, courteous, and professional, and didn't even tramp down any of my ferns growing at the outside unit. Thank you Joe and thank you Wards. House is cool, and glad to know you will check back on us in the fall.
Jim Purcell
01:21 17 Apr 19
David Deidlarz was a great professional who knew his business and was very courteous. I will be sure to call if I ever need any plumbing help again.
Roy Estabrook
23:35 16 Apr 19
April 16, 2019I received a call from my tenant at 9 AM that the Heat Pump and Air Conditioning Unit was not working. I immediately called Wards Heating and Plumbing. Wesley the Service Manager responded to my call and within 10 minutes Wesley had me scheduled with Joe their Technician for service repair between 1 PM and 2 PM. Wesley advised he would let me know when Joe was on his way. Wesley called advising Joe would be at the location between and 12 PM and 1 PM. Joe arrived at 12:20 PM. Joe was well organized, and took immediate action to search for the problem. Providing tests on the system he quickly identified the problem was with a small pump unit that removes water from the air flow system to the outside. The unit was off level as a result the unit system filled up and shut off the unit. Joe leveled the unit the pump kicked in water was discharged emptying the unit and the system restarted with no problems. Joe checked his computer system and realized that I have Service Check System twice a year, Fall and Spring. Since I had not had my Spring check up he completed the check up. As a result there was no charge for the call. Yes Joe saved me money and Wards benefited as work that would have been scheduled later in two to three weeks was completed saving man hours and scheduling for Wards. 5 star rating for Joe and for Wesley for just prompt response. Wesley and Joe you made me look like a hero in the eyes of my tenant as a result of your quick response and correcting the problem. Thanks so much. Hats off to a great team.Roy Estabrook
Jeannie Salyer
15:45 26 Mar 19
We were very pleased with Pete and Jimmy's plumbing work yesterday and Patrick's heat pump serving today. Ward put in our heat pumps in 2007 and we've never had trouble with them but decided to sign up for their semi-annual maintenance program. Highly recommend Ward and these three guys.
Charles W Wolfe
01:47 21 Mar 19
Wards has provided my family & me great service on many occasions. Greatly appreciated is Pete’s professionalism & friendliness.
Jenny Owen
15:04 10 Mar 19
We appreciated being able to go onto Wards website and enter a repair request. Our furnace quit working after work hours, and the website allowed us to immediately report our problem. They confirmed by email that they had received the request and would follow up first thing in the morning which they did. Patrick arrived and fixed the problem! Very professional and efficient!
Keith Prenger
21:00 01 Mar 19
Pete was professional, friendly, and very knowledgeable. I would recommend Pete and Ward Plumbing & Heating for any of you plumbing and heating needs.
Jake Scott
13:51 06 Feb 19
I have used Wards Plumbing and Heating for both commercial and residential repairs, and have been very pleased with the customer service on all occasions. Both the technicians and scheduling staff worked tirelessly recently, to help with an outage at the Sylva Police Department during the most recent cold snap. I would highly recommend them to anyone in need of such services.
Roger N René Allen-Dormany
15:37 10 Jan 19
We have been dealing with Ward since 2010 when they installed our Trane heat pump. They have also worked on our fuel furnace and done plumbing work for us. They are honest and reliable. We always recommend them to anyone.
Todd Vinyard
20:55 08 Jan 19
Very professional service. Quick and timely. They explained issue to help us watch out for problems in the future. Very satisfied customer.
David Liberman
13:54 05 Nov 18
I have had a service contract with Ward's for several years now and am totally pleased with them!!!
Jeff Eubanks
13:34 08 Oct 18
I recently Had a problem with my outdoor condenser unit. I called on a Monday morning and the same day by 3:30pm I had a tech at my house. It took him about 5 minutes to diagnose the problem and then he had the part on his truck and the repair was done. Best service I have ever received by far. Ward Heating & Cooling is now my go to service for my HVAC problems.
Lisa Raines Ledford
15:59 28 Sep 18
Very quick and excellent service.
Tyler Watras
14:33 18 Jan 17
As another local business owner, I am proud to say that Ward enjoys working with and supporting local businesses and craftsmen! Thank you Ward Plumbing & Heat for supporting your local sign painter.
Tonya Wilson Snider
05:00 14 Apr 15
Wards has been a staple in the community forever and it's easy to see why. Dependable, knowledgeable and affordable.
Debbi Guy Fortner
01:25 24 Dec 14
